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Post by Leppy101 on Jun 10, 2017 16:02:23 GMT -5
(PLEASE NOTE THIS IS MEANT FOR FUN)
I think it's been clear that the debate for paranormal phenomenon or how there's another world within our own has been going on since religion first started. It doesn't matter which religion you personally reside with, they all have their gods and demons, angels and imps, but is it actually factual or just a folk tale to scare our children at night in hopes to make them make the better moral judgments in life?
Is there a god or a demon? Is Heaven really a place to go to, or is Hell really a place that our very souls fall to for being an ill moral person in our short lifetime?
All religions and holy books say yes, but what do you say? Do you believe?
I tend to find that very answer for myself. (cue iconic SAW theme soundtrack)
Lately I have been all over youtube watching videos about paranormal investigations ranging from Ed and Loraine Warren case files to just normal people documenting their "finds". Most videos I watch are obviously faked while some really do make me question if the video was faked, or real.
(iconic SAW theme soundtrack intensifies)
The two channels I have stayed with now, after doing "research" for five months straight, are OmarGoshTV and Moe Sargi. Usually these two channels just do exploration videos in abandoned, creepy, dark, places, but every once in a while....you question reality. They just recently started doing challenges at 3am, which is apparently the "Devil's Hour". Challenges ranging from just being in a "haunted" place at 3am to doing the "One-Man Hide-n-Seak" at 3am.
Being as a person with zero religious faith, I intend to reboot my YouTube channel doing one of these challenges.
(iconic SAW theme soundtrack at full intensity)
I, Leppy101, am going to go to our rumored haunted cemetery at 3am and document my journey. Is the Spirit Realm of Shadows and Evil truly real? Do Spirits of the Dead really roam our very Earth? I plan to confirm or deny this debate once and for all this coming Wednesday.
Happy Haunting!
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Post by Blade Runner 07 on Jun 11, 2017 9:59:45 GMT -5
Good luck. I had a roommate in college so bored he would ghost hunt. You should invest in some rosemary and dragons blood to cleanse your ethereal body before going. That will increase the chances of a spirit encounter. Candles and quija board can help contact as well but never do that alone because I did. And it sucks. Nothing usually happens by yourself. Use the candle as a beacon for the ghost that linger. Then ask them to blow it out. If an animal ghost is encountered leave it the way you would a wild bear run in. Or rattlesnake.
This certainly sounds interesting I look forward to your report.
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Post by JMMREVIEW on Jun 11, 2017 17:06:32 GMT -5
I always found it very convenient (or inconvenient) that ghost hunters hunt in the dark, if a ghost was really haunting a house why not during the day? Is that when they sleep? It is also a huge coincidence that in the dark your mind plays tricks on you, your brain works in over drive and you think you saw something. That or its a ghost...
Ghosts are the same as Horoscope's for me, people trying to make sense of the senseless Horoscope's in particular are a complete pile of bulls**t... but that's just me typical Aries!
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Post by Blade Runner 07 on Jun 12, 2017 1:58:33 GMT -5
Yeah but it sure is fun though.
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Post by Greenfire32 on Jun 13, 2017 18:23:02 GMT -5
I always found it very convenient (or inconvenient) that ghost hunters hunt in the dark, if a ghost was really haunting a house why not during the day? Is that when they sleep? It is also a huge coincidence that in the dark your mind plays tricks on you, your brain works in over drive and you think you saw something. That or its a ghost... Ghosts are the same as Horoscope's for me, people trying to make sense of the senseless Horoscope's in particular are a complete pile of bulls**t... but that's just me typical Aries! Hunting in the dark is mostly theatrics (do you only live in your house during the night or all the time?) but the idea behind it is that it makes it easier to see something if it's barely there. Also, by removing traditional light (the visible spectrum) it makes it easier for equipment to detect non-traditional light like infrared or ultraviolet light. Basically, by hunting in the dark, you are removing the "light pollution" that could interfere with your equipment. There is also a huge misconception when it comes to ghost hunters and the people who form opinions about them. Ghost hunters don't actually go to prove a haunting, they go to disprove one. Ghost Hunters have a 99% success rate when it comes to finding ghosts. "Hearing voices? Well we found a weak spot in this wall that allows people's voices on the other side to reverberate and make it sound like they're on the inside. There's your ghost." That other 1%? That's the unexplained stuff. Notice I said "unexplained" and not "unexplain able" Remember, the vast majority of hunters are scientists or science enthusiasts. These are not typically the kind of people who bring in "professional" psychics or mediums. If you hire a hunting crew and they want to bring someone in who is "spiritually tuned," you've got frauds. In my youtube travels, the single most convincing piece of paranormal evidence that I've ever found is this: Having had an experience when I was younger, my body has developed an...interesting quirk. If I think (consciously or subconsciously) that somebody's "evidence" is legitimate or at the very least if I think the person presenting it is 100% sincere, my eyes will well up. On the flip, if I can see that something is fake or tell that the person presenting it is in it for the theatrics, nothing happens. I have an aversion to shadow-based phenomenon because I had an experience with one and until very very very recently, I had yet to see what I had saw replicated in a fashion that was 100% identical to my own experience through either "evidence" or through entertainment such as horror films. And then this scene happened (play 2:40-3:08): This is basically what I had witnessed, only replace the nun with the shadow cast from a cardboard cutout of this: In summary, my own views are that there is some kind of paranormal phenomenon happening and that that cannot be disputed (it is at this time I'd like to remind everyone that the definition of "paranormal" is a phenomenon beyond the normal scope of scientific understanding and does not necessarily mean "it's ghosts you guys!!!1one!! At one point, radio communication would have been classified under paranormal activity). There's something happening. No doubt in my mind. What is up for debate is the cause. Is it electromagnetic fields messing with our body's own internal mechanisms causing our senses to fire when there's nothing there? Is it some kind of energy field that we're as of yet unable to detect fully? Is it merely an imprint of who or what that once was? Or is it actually ghosts? I don't know. But I'd be awful skeptical of the people who will dismiss it right off the bat. Those are the same kinds of people who said we'd never fly, never land on the moon, never be able to fit more than 2 gigs onto a thumbstick. You have to keep an open mind, while filtering out the bullshit.
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Post by JMMREVIEW on Jun 15, 2017 12:39:15 GMT -5
A lot of this sounds like an argument from ignorance, "I don't know therefore ghosts".
Let's say you are right and there are things that go bump in the night happening all around us, why ghosts? Why not aliens, angles or fairies? At least with aliens it is much more likely to be true (bloody Mexicans). For me it all comes down to the likely hood of it being true. What is more likely? That you seen a ghost or your mind played a trick on you, you hallucinated a ghost, it was there is your mind but also created by your mind. We know that hallucinations happen, we can prove it but just because we can't disprove ghosts doesn't make them real. You can't disprove there is a teapot in orbit around the moon but that doesn't make it true.
While you are thinking of the above, what is more likely a baby born of a virgin or a Jewish women telling a fib?
****This has nothing to do with the above or anything you posted, this is some next level stuff but I am posting it because it’s a funny story and it shows how far down the rabbit hole people can go**** I used to know someone convinced ghosts were messing with her life I asked her to give me an example she said "The other day I lost my bank card" that was it, end of story ghosts stole her bank card, I can’t imagine how the telephone call to the bank must have sounded!
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Post by Greenfire32 on Jun 15, 2017 20:26:41 GMT -5
A lot of this sounds like an argument from ignorance, "I don't know therefore ghosts". Ehhh what? Pretty sure I hammered down on the "It's 99% explainable and NOT a ghost, and the other 1% I can't explain it, but that still doesn't mean it's ghosts" argument... Perhaps re-read. Not trying to be a dick about it, just...I definitely didn't say that I believe in ghosts without fail. I've had exactly one "encounter" in my life and I've seen exactly one piece of evidence that would lend credence to their existence, but I've never put 100% stock into "it was a g-g-g-g-ghost!" So in 26 years of walking the planet, I've come across 2 moments in time that says this is real and about a billion other moments that say it isn't. I'm open to a ghost being the explanation, but I personally find it much more likely that I was exposed to some electromagnetic field (them old houses didn't have shielding worth a shit) and there is growing evidence that those kinds of fields can cause you to have auditory, olfactory and visual hallucinations. And let's be real, that's almost certainly what it was. Let's say you are right and there are things that go bump in the night happening all around us, why ghosts? Why not aliens, angles or fairies? At least with aliens it is much more likely to be true (bloody Mexicans). I'd say the point of seeking answers is because you don't already know them. I'm not saying it couldn't be aliens, angels or fairies. I'm also not saying it's a ghost. I look for a cause. A drafty old house has creaky doors that move in the wind. Sound behaves like water. If you have a "leaky" roof, you can hear people walking outside your house. 99% of the time, you can explain a ghost as a logical, tangible thing and the other 1% usually means you just don't have enough info to definitively say "this is the cause." Again, at no point do we immediately declare a ghost. We know that hallucinations happen, we can prove it but just because we can't disprove ghosts doesn't make them real. You can't disprove there is a teapot in orbit around the moon but that doesn't make it true. I think you may have misunderstood me a little bit. When I said ghost hunters don't go to prove a haunting, they go to disprove one, I didn't mean that finding a lack of evidence for one thing automatically makes the other true. That's not the case. Ghost hunters don't hunt for ghosts, they hunt for "ghosts." The aforementioned draft in an old house causing the doors to sway is the "ghost" in this scenario. By saying "the draft is your ghost" we're not saying the draft is literally a ghost, we're saying that the phenomenon you are experiencing is not a ghost, but an explainable force of nature inside a house that really ought to be condemned. -------- Ghost Hunting isn't the spiritual-enthusiast scare fest that TV has portrayed them as. Anyone who's seriously pursued ghost hunting as either a hobby or a career isn't hunting for ghosts, they're hunting for normal explanations to situations that seem paranormal.
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Post by JMMREVIEW on Jun 16, 2017 15:43:34 GMT -5
I did read all of your post and I understand the difference in a fraud and someone who is genuinely trying to find the source of a weird noise etc but at the very least you have to admit you have a marketing problem on your hands. Especially with one glaring contradiction.
Why "ghost hunters" if you call yourself that it instantly comes with a lot of baggage. Off the top of my head "myth busters" is a better name. It's like a group of Muslims get together to do good deeds in their community and when deciding on a name they call themselves ISIS. They could say "oh we are not like that ISIS we don't even believe in martyrdom.
The naming is really important, as soon as you label yourself something you are making a statement.
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Post by Xargen on Jun 18, 2017 8:54:45 GMT -5
Lets not all forget that one resonant frequency that can induce fear and hallucinations in people too that's quite common in old buildings and stuff too
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