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Post by Blade Runner 07 on Mar 31, 2015 20:04:29 GMT -5
The first game, set in China, comes out on April 21st. The rest, at a later date. So what do you think? Are you excited for this AC mini-series of games or has it left you scratching your head? It's highly unlikely this is all we'll be seeing from the franchise this year. Your thoughts?
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Post by rev86 on Mar 31, 2015 23:32:59 GMT -5
Interesting, but I'm a bit cool on the series after Rogue...
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Post by Blade Runner 07 on Apr 1, 2015 12:33:19 GMT -5
I've been turned back onto the series with Unity after not liking it since AC2 so I'm hoping Assassin's Creed Victory is everything I hope it to be. Ohhh dem graphics. If they can have the new grappling hook item seen in the behind-closed-doors demos act like the grapple gun in Arkham City, or just have any way to get to a roof top or balcony in a flash, without tedious and imprecise wall crawling I think AC will be perfected from a gameplay standpoint. That, and cut the Animus stuff out all together, I think It could be the best Assassin's Creed yet. ACV is also set in the most modern and recognizable city setting yet, Victorian (1880s?) London. Probably the only setting more recognizable would be 1930s New York City. My biggest gripe with every Assassin's Creed game is the frustrating way your avatar climbs walls you don't want to. Usually at the worst moments like when your chasing someone. Your control stick veers a little too far left or right and your climbing a street lamp when you should be jumping over a park bench. OT: While I like the call back to Prince of Persia style of gameplay, this chronicles trilogy doesn't interest me in the slightest. Not when I know Victory is coming out later this year.
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Post by Blade Runner 07 on May 7, 2015 13:45:07 GMT -5
This image was released today. It teases Ubisofts worst kept secret, Assassin's Creed Victory. So I'm not starting a new thread (you can in my stead) until we have something to actually look at and talk about but we'll be getting an official reveal of the next Assassin's Creed game on the 12th. IGN seems to be heading up the coverage of the reveal and this privilege has made them awfully coy to the fact that this game was "revealed" last December.
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Post by Lenrat117 on May 9, 2015 14:50:29 GMT -5
I kind of dislike the story telling in AC games which makes me worry about the Communist Russia ac Chronicles. For a company that gets a multicultural team of faiths and beliefs to make their games their narratives are always "plucky underdog's= good, Empire= bad. You go kill empire and everything rosy again". Predictable and not all representative of history, religion or culture where things are always more complicated than a simple good vs bad battle. The first game featured around the original assassins order who were, in real life, a group of Muslim extremists who were devoted to serving the sultan of whichever empire that happened to be in charge of them at the time. In the games they are portrayed as this underground Illuminati type group devoted to peace and liberty.
So what has AC chronicles Russia have to do with this? well you see, the assassin in that game is running through Yekaterinburg, trying to rescue the Tsar of Russia from the Bolsheviks. It's quite problematic to portray the Tsar as "the good guy" and the Bolsheviks as "the bad guys" as they were both ruthless bastards. The Tsar was a dozy plonker, there's nothing wrong with being a dozy plonker, but when you are the absolute monarch of one of the largest nations in the world but one of the weakest in Europe you kind of need to be more than just a dozy plonker. The Tsar was a man who starved his people, caused untold economic strife and got millions killed in the first world war. Now when you fit that into the classic AC narrative, you post this man as a good guy and he people who came to power offering peace, bread and land (not luxuries like wealth, prosperity and contentment mind you, basic things like not starving, not being shot by Austrians and Germans and not being evicted from land by some rich bastard who thinks he owns you) as the bad guys, you begin to see problems with Ubisoft's writing
I guess, what I'm saying is; I'm bored of the AC formula. If Ubi can't get someone who isn't a 13 year old to write their stories than I'm not going anywhere near the series....unless it has pirates....man, AC IV black flag was awesome...
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Post by Xargen on May 9, 2015 16:57:07 GMT -5
I dunno man, it's not like they painted Napoleon in any light other than what could well be argued as accurate... I mean, I was hella suspicious of him the whole way through Unity, and it's not like he's all roses and does no wrong... The game actually tells you that he all up and used cannons in the streets of Paris... Looking back too I've never really had /too/ much trust for who the main big important assassin dude was, mostly 'cus of the first game (You hurt my trust once and it still hurts man)...
To me the first game set the scene for the whole series... You are open to be backstabbed by anyone for selfish desires, there will likely be hardships and sacrifice and you'll stab loads of dudes in the neck. Though I really liked AC:BF because tbh, YOU were the one that mostly stabbed people in the back (metaphorically as well as physically)
Also regarding Assassins as good guys, that is completely open to personal interpretation... I've not played Rogue yet, but I'm willing to bet that story-wise it's VERY similar, because that point has kinda been drilled into you over the course of the games... The two factions are pretty much the same, with the same end-goal except for the final execution of said end-goal... One faction wants to bring enlightenment and freedom of mind to every living person to create a truly free world, while the other wants to keep most people in the dark and rule in secret, leading people to a truly peaceful existence. Depending on your own personal moral compass, you'd maybe not side with the Assassin's, except we're shown the brutality of the Templars with their shadowy work, killing people that get in the way to further their own cause and generally willing to go to any lengths, which is all well and good except for when you realise that the Assassins are the exact same, the difference being YOU are in control of an Assassin... I don't think they are ever painted as the good guys over the Templars, rather there is a lot of bias towards the Assassin lifestyle because that's the side the game is set on. You could make a compelling argument for the Templars being more in the right if you really feel like it, where the Templars keep people in an "ignorance is bliss" state, while the world events around them seem to gradually improve for reasons that they don't fully comprehend, they just know things are getting better... To the average person this would inspire hope for the future and generally a happier outlook...
I mean, imagine if your country was at war, had been at war for like, 20 years, then all of a sudden, one day the leaders of the war were all "We're sick of the hostilities, lets put an end to it and talk things out" People aren't gonna know the reasons behind it, and honestly I don't think they'd care, because hey, the war is over, the world is a safer place.
On the flip side of the coin the Assassins want to "free the world"... Open the eyes of everyone to every truth, giving everyone the knowledge of what's going on around them. This may sound like a good idea at first glance, until you remember what people are like... A lot of people are destructive by nature, and giving them the tools and knowledge they need to wreak havoc is pretty much exactly what would happen... I mean lets face it, telling 7 billion people "Nothing is true, everything is permitted"? How many people do you think would take it the way Altaïr did originally? It'd be like building Noah's ark and expecting all the animals to not kill and eat each other
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Post by Greenfire32 on May 9, 2015 18:38:26 GMT -5
meh
If you've played one Ass Creed, you've played all the Ass creeds.
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Post by Lenrat117 on May 10, 2015 4:53:48 GMT -5
AC IV black flag was incredibly awesome...PC port wasn't that bad either.
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Post by Blade Runner 07 on May 10, 2015 11:20:08 GMT -5
I've only played all the way through AC2 and Unity, and I don't understand why people hate on Unity so much. I think it was a much better realized and dense city than AC2, and the customization NEEDS to stay with the series along with being able to choose your sex.
I play Assassin's Creed to visit these places in time. I think that's the main appeal to me. Not the story. I'm really interested in seeing Ubisofts take on Victorian England. Considering they are steadily moving into the future with each game, probably the only thing more intriguing would be a 1930s New York.
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Post by Xargen on May 10, 2015 13:40:15 GMT -5
People hate on Unity mostly 'cus of the huge glitchy mess it was when first launched
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Post by Blade Runner 07 on May 10, 2015 15:35:27 GMT -5
People hate on Unity mostly 'cus of the huge glitchy mess it was when first launched If there is one game of 2014 that needs a second chance, it's probably that one. People swore it off as total crap from day one. By the time I played it, it was one of the best action adventures in recent memory. Well, on par with the best of Assassin's Creed games.
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Post by Lenrat117 on May 10, 2015 16:17:02 GMT -5
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Post by Blade Runner 07 on May 10, 2015 17:16:28 GMT -5
I've probably said it three times now but I'm excited for Assassin's Creed Victory. Not pre-order excited but the possibilities are enticing to say the least. Late 19th century London is so iconic.
Everyone has this kind of romanticized vision of places around the world and an image that comes to mind when you mention places so rich in documented history. They did a good job with Paris in going to the locations and retroactively fitting old buildings in places that have been long since renovated for Paris. Would love to see that with London.
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Post by Xargen on May 10, 2015 22:40:12 GMT -5
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