MMCC0203
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Post by MMCC0203 on Mar 10, 2013 21:38:17 GMT -5
AKA Scott Clifton. Anybody else watch his videos? Great stuff for anyone interested in philosophy. I'm still amazed that he's completely self-taught.
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Post by JMMREVIEW on Mar 11, 2013 3:57:53 GMT -5
lol the first one is pretty funny, people often talk about beauty in nature created by god but rarely mention child bone cancer
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Post by MMCC0203 on Mar 11, 2013 16:09:40 GMT -5
lol the first one is pretty funny, people often talk about beauty in nature created by god but rarely mention child bone cancer Stupid design at it's finest. Reminds me of the Neil Degrasse Tyson vid I posted earlier.
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Post by JMMREVIEW on Mar 11, 2013 17:25:52 GMT -5
Have you seen this video?
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Post by MMCC0203 on Mar 11, 2013 19:03:33 GMT -5
I have. Interestingly enough I completely disagree with pretty much everything he has to say in that vid. Atheism is not a religion, worldview, ideology, etc. It entails absolutely nothing other than the disbelief or lack of belief in the existence of God(s). In other words, the only thing you can say about a particular atheist with absolute certainty is that he/she is skeptical of the existence of God(s). Nothing more.
An atheist can most certainly be a republican, democrat, feminist, humanitarian, ecocentrist, white supremacist, or whatever group he/she chooses to belong to because atheism doesn't concern any of those ideologies.
I'm more than willing to label myself as an atheist (albeit an agnostic atheist) because it doesn't and shouldn't define me in any particular way. What baffles me is how most people in America can't understand this. We're one of the most mistrusted demographics in the US for completely baseless reasons. People here automatically assume atheists are just scumbag heathens who lack moral values. This couldn't be further from the truth, and it shows how truly misrepresented we are.
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Post by JMMREVIEW on Mar 12, 2013 5:53:05 GMT -5
I aggree Xargen was telling me that young earth creationists belief that if you didnt believe in god then you also dont believe in hell and have no fear of going to hell.
So why would you be a good little boy? if not for the promiss of some reward to come?
Its a strange way to live if you ask me "Oh I better help that old lady accross the road or I will burn in hell" instead of just doing it because you want to...
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Post by MMCC0203 on Mar 12, 2013 11:17:37 GMT -5
I aggree Xargen was telling me that young earth creationists belief that if you didnt believe in god then you also dont believe in hell and have no fear of going to hell. So why would you be a good little boy? if not for the promiss of some reward to come? Its a strange way to live if you ask me "Oh I better help that old lady accross the road or I will burn in hell" instead of just doing it because you want to... Exactly I find it rather funny that religious people constantly berate the non-religious for having no moral accountability. Their entire morality is based upon a shallow reward/punishment system. I don't need a particular flavor of god, heaven, hell, etc to motivate me to act morally. I do it because I understand that life is finite and thus valuable. I do it because I empathize with others and the hardships that they face. Why is it so hard for the religious to understand this? The fact is, you could be the absolute worst human being imaginable, but as long as you bow down before god all will be forgiven. There is absolutely zero accountability in the Judeo-Christian worldview despite what the religious may claim.
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Post by JMMREVIEW on Mar 12, 2013 11:53:35 GMT -5
Yeah but I have to agree with what Neil Degrasse Tyson said "I dont have the time energy or interest" saying you are an atheist pretty much means you want to do something about religion and religious people. As long as its harmless to me and my family I dont care.
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Post by MMCC0203 on Mar 12, 2013 13:33:25 GMT -5
Yeah but I have to agree with what Neil Degrasse Tyson said "I dont have the time energy or interest" saying you are an atheist pretty much means you want to do something about religion and religious people. As long as its harmless to me and my family I dont care. I disagree. As I said before the only thing atheism entails about a person is that he/she lacks belief in god(s). If you actively rally against religion and religious people then you're an anti-theist. Personally I really don't care if people want to believe in supernatural crap or not. That's there prerogative and they have every to right to practice what they want. It does however become a problem when they try shove their beliefs down the throats of others through something like stupid design legislation.
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Post by JMMREVIEW on Mar 12, 2013 14:33:34 GMT -5
Or start blowing things up...
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Post by MMCC0203 on Mar 12, 2013 16:16:18 GMT -5
Or start blowing things up... That too....
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Post by Blade Runner 07 on Mar 12, 2013 17:26:28 GMT -5
I also agree fully. I waste less time just not caring than chit chatting about anything not proven to be my reality. Well unless it's androids or... well everything i'm interested in.
I love the "thats why they call it faith" argument. It has shut me up so many times and today I can say "to each his own" because honestly life is too short for me to be wasting time on people that simply do not want to think. Sky is always blue, grass is always green people can have the sky and the grass. What can I say.
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Post by JMMREVIEW on Mar 12, 2013 17:46:58 GMT -5
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Post by Blade Runner 07 on Mar 12, 2013 17:50:12 GMT -5
Who will deny those eyes. I get lost in those baby blues every time.
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Post by JMMREVIEW on Mar 12, 2013 18:02:36 GMT -5
Dude looks like a lady! the funny thing is, if there was a jesus he would be black!
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